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    TL;DR AT THE BOTTOM SORRY FOR THE FORMAT
    So I recently (this last Friday) downloaded the Orion and Cecil Voice packs. After downloading I ran the .exe files and did the set up procedures. From what I can tell after the short time I have had to use the packs everything seems to be working well I do, however have some questions.

    ORION- I guess the FIRST question I have about this pack lies in the Keybindings portion of the commands list. Why are all of these commands grayed out? They look like ((command))(voice disabled) Admittedly when the set up guide was going over the key bindings portion and I tried to "import commands" through the commands screen I was unable to find the custom 1.8 commands through the path provided, I did end up finding them through another path by going through the C: drive and manually finding the .binds folder for elite dangerous, however I don't know how to implement them without going through the "import commands" tab in the commands list. That's my first question, why is that section grayed out and how do I import my key bindings into voice attack without using the import commands button.
    SECOND question involves Verity. Pretty straightforward, I'm just wondering if the Orion pack uses the full verity pack or if it is just, for the lack of a better term "sound bites" from her galaxepedia commands. I guess what I'm asking is if I can communicate with verity directly or does it always have to be superseded by Orion saying something like "acknowledged, Verity would you mind Telling the commander about that?" If I ask something like "what is a black hole?", can I just say "Verity what is a black hole?" and treat them like two separate sources of information or is it pre-scripted to include ORION?
    THIRD question I have is what are the other .VAP files in the ORION folder? I'm listing them from memory here so don't fault me if I get the names wrong. I believe the first one was called ORIONfullhouse.VAP which I created a profile for and has been working beautifully. The second file is GAURDIANS.VAP I think and the third is the VAP for the ORION guided tour. My question is, do I need to create a profile for each of these files or should I just add GAURDIANS and the TOUR files to the FULL HOUSE file?
    And FOURTH how do I set ORION up to voice search the galaxy map?


    CECIL- Ok so Cecil is fantastic I only had him active for a little while but the VAP is absolutely hilarious. The first question is how do I go about using ORION and Cecil together Cecil isn't intended for controlling the ship I get that. He is there to provide witty banter and act as a .... friend...confidant.... lov-er never mind, point is he's not intended for voice commands so can I utilize ORION alongside Cecil and how would I go about doing that? I noticed in the CECIL folder there are multiple .VAP files as well, one is for Cecil the other is CecilSF for the srv comms and then there is one for Cecil+Midnight (does that include the midnight VAP as well?) and then a fuzzyduck.VAP really it's the same question from the ORION section do I need to make a separate VA profile for each of these or do I put them all into one?

    SUPER SPECIAL BONUS QUESTION SECTION: This Question is in regards to the EDDI software so if any of you have used this software I hope you can help. I know this may not be the right place at all.
    First things first full disclosure, I do believe I had voice attack running when I was doing the config for EDDI (GASP) am I boned? I finished up the setup for EDDI did all the enter your info here bits, created an account for EDSM and loaded the VAP profile into VA but I'm not getting any responses when i access the EDDI profile in VA it says there is an update available(mine is the most current). EDSM is not tracking my play and the voice is not enabling when I jump. does that VAP need to be added to another profile or does it need to be run as a plug in if it needs to be run as a plug-in through one of my profiles how do I do that?
    In summary, I'm a noob to all of this stuff, and in keeping with true noob tradition I may have some pretty simple questions that can be answered by saying, "just do this, then this, then this you idiot."
    But if you took the time to read this then thank you. And if you found it in your heart to take the time and answer a few questions then a most sincere thank you. (I'm running on Windows 8.1 64 bit and all the programs discussed in this topic are up to date.)

    tl;dr
    My questions:
    1.Why is the section under keybindings grayed out in ORION FULL HOUSE.VAP? Looks like [((command))(voice disabled)] Can I transfer my keybindings without using "Import Command"?
    2. Does the ORION VAP come with the full Verity VAP or just the sound bites from galaxepedia?
    3. What are the other .VAP files in the ORION folder are they meant to have their own VA profiles set up? Or should they be added to the ORION FULL HOUSE.VAP in voice attack?
    4. How can I make it so ORION searches the galaxy map by voice command Ex. "ORION plot a course for the Tau Ceti system." the intended action being ((the galaxy map opening> the search bar being highlighted> the name of the system being typed in> the search button pressed> the map being directed to that system.))
    5. How can I make ORION and Cecil part of the same profile?
    6. These other .VAP files in Cecil i.e. fuzzy duck and Cecil+Midnight CecilSF do they need their own VA profiles or can I lump all of my HSC voice packs into the same profile and call it a day?
    7. Please help me with EDDI an up to date tutorial might be needed in short I may have been running the config file with VA opened (don't laugh)
    If this isn't the right area for this topic please forgive me and point me in the right direction. Thanks again!
    -CMDRMcPunchie







  • #2
    Originally posted by McPunchieOnPc View Post
    TL;DR AT THE BOTTOM SORRY FOR THE FORMAT
    So I recently (this last Friday) downloaded the Orion and Cecil Voice packs. After downloading I ran the .exe files and did the set up procedures. From what I can tell after the short time I have had to use the packs everything seems to be working well I do, however have some questions.

    ORION- I guess the FIRST question I have about this pack lies in the Keybindings portion of the commands list. Why are all of these commands grayed out? They look like ((command))(voice disabled) Admittedly when the set up guide was going over the key bindings portion and I tried to "import commands" through the commands screen I was unable to find the custom 1.8 commands through the path provided, I did end up finding them through another path by going through the C: drive and manually finding the .binds folder for elite dangerous, however I don't know how to implement them without going through the "import commands" tab in the commands list. That's my first question, why is that section grayed out and how do I import my key bindings into voice attack without using the import commands button.
    the ((commands)) (voice disabled) are intended. They are the "building block" commands that we use to build up longer/more complex commands. Good example is for the "keybinds" category. Instead of telling each command what button to press, we instead go "Run ((thrust up))" for example. ((thrust up)) would be the keyboard press that you want it to be. So, instead of having to change *each* and *every* single command that might press W (for example) to X, you instead just change ((thrust up)) from W to X, and all the commands that use ((thrust up)) get updated automatically.

    SECOND question involves Verity. Pretty straightforward, I'm just wondering if the Orion pack uses the full verity pack or if it is just, for the lack of a better term "sound bites" from her galaxepedia commands. I guess what I'm asking is if I can communicate with verity directly or does it always have to be superseded by Orion saying something like "acknowledged, Verity would you mind Telling the commander about that?" If I ask something like "what is a black hole?", can I just say "Verity what is a black hole?" and treat them like two separate sources of information or is it pre-scripted to include ORION?
    No, its just her soundbites.... not a "bonus" AI for you.

    [quote]THIRD question I have is what are the other .VAP files in the ORION folder? I'm listing them from memory here so don't fault me if I get the names wrong. I believe the first one was called ORIONfullhouse.VAP which I created a profile for and has been working beautifully. The second file is GAURDIANS.VAP I think and the third is the VAP for the ORION guided tour. My question is, do I need to create a profile for each of these files or should I just add GAURDIANS and the TOUR files to the FULL HOUSE file?

    Full house has all of the above. It is basically for those people who want *everything*

    And FOURTH how do I set ORION up to voice search the galaxy map?
    You can't
    CECIL- Ok so Cecil is fantastic I only had him active for a little while but the VAP is absolutely hilarious. The first question is how do I go about using ORION and Cecil together Cecil isn't intended for controlling the ship I get that. He is there to provide witty banter and act as a .... friend...confidant.... lov-er never mind, point is he's not intended for voice commands so can I utilize ORION alongside Cecil and how would I go about doing that? I noticed in the CECIL folder there are multiple .VAP files as well, one is for Cecil the other is CecilSF for the srv comms and then there is one for Cecil+Midnight (does that include the midnight VAP as well?) and then a fuzzyduck.VAP really it's the same question from the ORION section do I need to make a separate VA profile for each of these or do I put them all into one?
    You can use the "include commands from" option in the profile settings (click the tick mark next to the profile name on the Profile Edit Screen), and then choose what profile you want to include. Whilst you can only include one profile per profile, there is no limit on the chain of profiles you can link together.

    Please note: There is no "logic" in the checking so you can actually end up doing a circular loop, which will eventually crash out your PC (in theory).

    SUPER SPECIAL BONUS QUESTION SECTION: This Question is in regards to the EDDI software so if any of you have used this software I hope you can help. I know this may not be the right place at all.
    First things first full disclosure, I do believe I had voice attack running when I was doing the config for EDDI (GASP) am I boned? I finished up the setup for EDDI did all the enter your info here bits, created an account for EDSM and loaded the VAP profile into VA but I'm not getting any responses when i access the EDDI profile in VA it says there is an update available(mine is the most current). EDSM is not tracking my play and the voice is not enabling when I jump. does that VAP need to be added to another profile or does it need to be run as a plug in if it needs to be run as a plug-in through one of my profiles how do I do that?
    In summary, I'm a noob to all of this stuff, and in keeping with true noob tradition I may have some pretty simple questions that can be answered by saying, "just do this, then this, then this you idiot."
    But if you took the time to read this then thank you. And if you found it in your heart to take the time and answer a few questions then a most sincere thank you. (I'm running on Windows 8.1 64 bit and all the programs discussed in this topic are up to date.)
    I *personally* run EDDI and VA together... but I Don't use the VA plugin for EDDI. Will have to poke TheThingIs about this
    1) I reject your reality.... and substitute my own
    2) Not to be used when upset... will void warranty
    3) Stoke me a clipper i will be back for dinner
    4) Never tell Gangrel to do anything... he will probably get it wrong
    WARNING! Swedish wall-of-text hits you for bork-bork-bork damage!

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    • #3
      Hey there, thank you for the quick response you have put me at peace on most things and that trait in someone is hard to come by, you're a legend. Quick follow up since it wasn't addressed in your original post is the CECIL+ Midnight.vap a "bonus" AI?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by McPunchieOnPc View Post
        Hey there, thank you for the quick response you have put me at peace on most things and that trait in someone is hard to come by, you're a legend. Quick follow up since it wasn't addressed in your original post is the CECIL+ Midnight.vap a "bonus" AI?
        Nope. It requires both packs. It just adds a bit more for those who own both

        1) I reject your reality.... and substitute my own
        2) Not to be used when upset... will void warranty
        3) Stoke me a clipper i will be back for dinner
        4) Never tell Gangrel to do anything... he will probably get it wrong
        WARNING! Swedish wall-of-text hits you for bork-bork-bork damage!

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        • #5
          Cool, thanks!

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          • #6
            eddi runs completely independently from voiceattack. You don't even need to import the .vap as all that does is give you a few extra commands to run. If you are not getting eddi to speak when you jump then it's likely that it is not reading your log files correctly or you've set it up wrong. Latest version is 2.1 so I'd wipe your install, install the latest and then run through the setup guides again. If you are still struggling then let me know and I'll try to help.
            The Singularity profile - One profile to rule them all and at HCS we bound them

            You see, TheThingIs, eventually you'll be allright.

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