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    Greetings once again HCS folks.

    Thanks for all the hard work and for the great voice packs. I've currently got ASTRA, Z, and the ship's cat installed and working fine for the most part.
    The Issue that I'm running into is that there are a few spoken commands happening when I'm not speaking.
    The VA window shows them, and Astra or Z will even respond or carry out the command, But I'm not speaking.
    For example, targets are randomly getting switched or un-targeted when I'm in the middle of combat, (this is a big problem) or when I'm in supercruise heading for a destination.
    I've also seen the command "You're with me" popping up repeatedly without me saying anything like that.
    the command for the ships lights also triggers randomly.

    I'm using a headset with mic while playing, so nothing is coming through the speakers that may cause a command to trigger. the only ambient noise in the room would be a fan, but that's several feet away and pretty quiet as far as fans go.
    In fact the random commands even appear when I have the mic muted via the switch on the headset, so there should be no audio input for voice attack at all.
    So ambient noise can't be the issue if the mic itself is muted.... Am I right?

    I'm at a loss as to what to do about it. have looked into VA settings, but haven't changed anything there yet.
    Could it be something to do with the minimum confidence lvl setting? I'm hesitant to mess with the settings without further advice for fear of breaking something or making it worse.
    Would increasing the Min confidence lvl be a way to fix this? it's currently set to 0.

    Let me know if there is any more specific info I can provide that may help us figure it out.
    Any suggestions, help or ideas would be appreciated.
    Cheers.
    When considering what, when, where and how, why becomes irrelevant.

  • #2
    Is it a USB or a 3.5mm jack for the microphone? If it's the 3.5mm jack, then there is the potential for internal line noise to be a factor.

    Now saying that, increasing the confidence level, decreasing command weight or enable/disabling the adaptive recognition/acoustic echo cancellation can also help.
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    • #3
      Thanks for the response Gangrel.

      The headset is an old Turtle beach headset. It uses a USB connection, but also has an optional 3.5 connection that's just for the headphones, and not the mic. the optional headphone plug is not connected to the computer, so that shouldn't be a factor. Only the USB is connected for both headphones and mic.

      I will mess around with the settings you mentioned and see if that has any effect.
      When considering what, when, where and how, why becomes irrelevant.

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      • #4
        OK I've had time to mess with those settings, and the problem persists.
        checking or un-checking adaptive recognition and acoustic echo cancellation has no effect (tried either, neither and both). Nor has changing the values of command weight and minimum confidence level. Ive tested a few combinations of these settings to zero effect.
        The issue persists even after I mute my mic so there should be absolutely ZERO voice input. the headset uses a USB connection, so there shouldn't be any line noise.
        Something is buggy here and I have no clue.
        Singularity is registering voice commands from somewhere and executing instructions that I am not giving. This is pretty frustrating and game breaking.
        Combat is nearly unplayable with the AI constantly switching targets at random. Also randomly switches targets in supercruise mode causing me to go to system map or the nav panel to re-select and lock onto my destination.
        I have both ASTRA and Z as well as the ships cat on board. Both ASTRA and Z are affected whether I have both or just one of them enabled. Is it possible to throw both of them out of the airlock and just keep the cat?

        Will have to revert to my own VA profile for now and be satisfied with EDDI as my on-board assistant until I can figure this out.
        Any insight or advise is appreciated.
        Cheers
        When considering what, when, where and how, why becomes irrelevant.

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        • #5
          put command weight to 0, it will help alot.

          If you are getting triggers even with your mic muted then are sure there isn't another mic on your system it is picking up? I had this problem when muting my headset mic only to figure out it was my VR headset mic on the other side of the room. Creating a new speech profile can help a lot especially if you manually lower the mic volume (don't let windows set it) when starting the training. If certain cmds keep getting triggered then a good solution is to edit the trigger itself in the voice trigger editor and make the troublesome ones have more syllables.

          This info from VA can also help:
          https://forum.voiceattack.com/smf/in...p?topic=1635.0

          with more helpful things here:
          https://forum.voiceattack.com/smf/index.php?board=8.0
          The Singularity profile - One profile to rule them all and at HCS we bound them

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          • #6
            OK.
            I've set the command weight to 0, but that hasn't seemed to help.
            But, thanks to your idea about there possibly being another mic on my system somewhere, I think I may have isolated this issue.

            Not exactly another Mic, but...
            I believe it has something to do with having my television on while playing.
            The sound for my TV cable box is running through my external USB sound card via 3.5 mm jack. (old soundblaster X-fi 5.1) while my headset is connected to the computer via USB.
            When I plug in the headset, it automatically becomes the default sound output device while the sound card remains enabled, but on stand by.
            The sound from the TV still goes through to my speakers (not my headset) because both the cable box and my speaker system connect directly to the external card. So, as long as the computer is on to provide power to the card, it will act like a plain old amplifier for the cable box and continue to play the TV sound through the speakers, even if I disable the sound card in the windows sound settings. (Useful A.F. on rare occasions when there are others in the room watching TV on one screen while I'm playing on the other)

            When I plug in the headset, the headset mic becomes the default recording device while the sound card "line in/mic in" remains enabled, but on stand by.
            It seems that the input from the sound card still gets picked up by Voice Attack unless I go into windows sound settings and actually disable the "line in/mic in" on the sound card. (also does not affect the sound from the TV going directly through the card to speakers).

            So it seems that disabling that line in/mic in input stops the false commands being received by VA.

            Still have a little more testing to do, but I believe that's fixed it.

            Thanks for the idea.
            That's another pint I owe you.

            EDIT: Yup, that seems to have it all sorted out. I hope this will be helpful for anyone who runs into a similar problem.
            ​​​​​​​Cheers
            Last edited by Buck Starbuster; 07-26-2019, 05:17 PM.
            When considering what, when, where and how, why becomes irrelevant.

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            • #7
              Hi I'm having similar issues and one thing I have noticed is that the VA in sound mixer is running many times. Also when I tell Astra to go to sleep and wake up it adds more iterations in the sound mixer so that after an hour or so there are 30+ there. It works flawlessly outside of Elite but once in game Astra is picking up targeting and lights on commands. Any ideas please?

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              • #8
                Make sure that you have the audio output type set in the Voice Attack setting (audio tab) set to "Integrated components"

                In terms of the False triggers, you might have to decrease your command weight, increase your confidence level, or enable/disable acoustic echo cancellation/adaptive recognition

                Some people find having VA set to "Push to listen" mode helps as well
                1) I reject your reality.... and substitute my own
                2) Not to be used when upset... will void warranty
                3) Stoke me a clipper i will be back for dinner
                4) Never tell Gangrel to do anything... he will probably get it wrong
                WARNING! Swedish wall-of-text hits you for bork-bork-bork damage!

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