Cannot change custom keyboard bindings to match what Astra needs to opperate

[Arbanax]

HI all

not sure why this is happening but in both Beta 2.0 and 1.5 when I tried to change my custom keyboard commands, to match what Astra needs, I cannot get my keyboard key strokes to take. If I press any other key, like my mouse, or my Thrustmaster joystick that registers but my keyboard doesn't. Its maddening, since I only want to change a few things, but its not responding to any keystrokes.

Anyone got a clue?

Thx

Ab

[Nollywood]

You could try if this helps.
Video for setting keybinds in game using the voice packs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms3bL1wBBFg

If that doesnt hep im not too sure. I did have a friend today who logged into game and his keybindings were reset for no reason. So not sure if its something that just happened for you today also?

[Arbanax]

Thanks for this Nollywood.

However I have discovered some further irregularities. Firstly something occurred since using VA and Astra with the new Horizon’s Beta – in that my keyboard. Or more strictly certain keys stopped working. I could ask Astra to do something and sometimes she would respond, othertimes nothing but in any case my keyboard wasn’t working so neither, for some reason where any keystrokes.
I reinstalled my software and am typing and everything is fine. So I went through the Keybinding file but I am confused because the terms have changed in places.

For instance, Galaxy map is [/] Presumably this is in fact the key [?/] Whereas super cruise or Warp or whatever its called is number pad divide which I believe is [/] on the number pad. I followed this convention through but still, Astra and VA do not seem to be activating things as instructed. I can however type or press the alternative I have set up and it works fine. Is there a way to go through changing the commands, to a different default key?

Also one last thing, I asked Astra to deploy landing gear, she said they were down already. But they weren’t, so I deployed them manually. Yet I have bound the right key and still it doesn’t seem to want to work. Any clues, as to what all this bizarre behaviour is about. Its driving me nuts.

I have some other questions as well, but lets try and get these out of the way first.

Really appreciate whatever help anyone can give.

Thanks (sorry for going on a bit)

Ab

[Nollywood]

Hello,

Im a little confused as to what keybind files you are looking at?

The commands in VA and ASTRA profile should never need changing.
so once you have imported into VA ASTRAS profile.
The only thing you need to do to get it working is to have the in game keybinds set correctly. To match what ASTRA is using.
Which is why i sent the previous video because then you just go though the in game settings and speak the commands for each function eg - "deploy weapons"

As for the landing gear issue, this usually happens if you have pressed keys rather than using the command, or you started voice attack and astra when you were already in space and not docked so she wouldnt still think she was docked at start up.
Easiest way to correct his via voice command is to just say "landing gear" because that doesnt matter if they are deployed or retracted.

[Gangrel]

Thanks for this Nollywood.

However I have discovered some further irregularities. Firstly something occurred since using VA and Astra with the new Horizon’s Beta – in that my keyboard. Or more strictly certain keys stopped working. I could ask Astra to do something and sometimes she would respond, othertimes nothing but in any case my keyboard wasn’t working so neither, for some reason where any keystrokes.
I reinstalled my software and am typing and everything is fine. So I went through the Keybinding file but I am confused because the terms have changed in places.

With voice attack for some of the commands we have disabled the "passthrough" facility of voice attack if we have also bound it to "trigger" ASTRA/Midnight/AI from speaking when you press a key. This was to prevent "double tapping" of commands (you press the key, Elite would do the action, Voice Attack would say the command AND also press the key as well.
Reset all systems;Run diagnostics;Check all systems;All systems check;Full diagnostic scan;Initiate diagnostic scan;Prepare all on board systems"
If you click the "disable shortcut" keys on voice attack you will find that the keys work.

For instance, Galaxy map is [/] Presumably this is in fact the key [?/] Whereas super cruise or Warp or whatever its called is number pad divide which I believe is [/] on the number pad. I followed this convention through but still, Astra and VA do not seem to be activating things as instructed. I can however type or press the alternative I have set up and it works fine. Is there a way to go through changing the commands, to a different default key?

This sounds like a potential "VA mapping" error if you are not using a standard US (or even UK) keyboard. But yes, you can change the keybindings in Voice Attack, but only do this with care. They are located in the "Keybinds" category of the profile. You just need to edit the keypress of the associated command. Please note: This will need to be done each and every time the profile updates.

Also one last thing, I asked Astra to deploy landing gear, she said they were down already. But they weren’t, so I deployed them manually. Yet I have bound the right key and still it doesn’t seem to want to work. Any clues, as to what all this bizarre behaviour is about. Its driving me nuts.

Looks like you are using the beta profile.

Each and every time you log into the game you will have to use one of the following commands:

IF DOCKED: "Reset all systems;Run diagnostics;Check all systems;All systems check;Full diagnostic scan;Initiate diagnostic scan;Prepare all on board systems" (or Press F3)
IF IN SPACE: "Reset Panels;System checks;Check systems;System scan;Check onboard flight systems;Software debugging;Run software debugging;There's a ghost in the machine, hunt it down" (or press F4)

You will need keyboard shortcuts in Voice Attack enabled for these commands, but you can easily toggle them off afterwards if need be

[Arbanax]

Thanks guys will try this when I get a chance a little later. Yes I do believe I am using the Beta profile because it was the latest.

Ab

[Nollywood]

Thanks guys will try this when I get a chance a little later. Yes I do believe I am using the Beta profile because it was the latest.

Ab

1.6.6 profiles are the latest.
Both Basic and Beta should have 1.6.6 profiles too use.
I would suggest first using the basic 1.6.6 profile as the beta ones have alot more things that can become confusing and need resetting as gangrel mentioned above.
Once you get the basic profile working and used too it then you can check out the beta ones.

Just to avoid further confusion. The basic profiles contain everything you need in game. some people have asked me before if basic ones are missing content or some things.
Beta profiles have some more complicated ways of doing things which can get tricky (landing gear for example)
Also the beta profiles are beta for the voice packs. Not related to the horizons beta. (ie- you dont need to use beta profile because you play beta horizons )

[Arbanax]

Thanks for this I did try it out and some bits were working. Then I haven't been able to get to the game until I updated with the latest Astra released in the last couple of days and this is what I am finding.

So I have updated Astra to the latest package and am running ED 2.0 with Horizons.

I made sure that I run a system check and that keyboard shortcuts disabled is on. And this is what I am finding.

If I say weapons, hot, engage, etc. I get nothing. Astra says nothing.
If I say jump to super cruise, Astra might say the words, but nothing happens.

Keyboard short cuts work fine, and I have gone through and made sure all the relevant keyboard short cuts are in place.

So I am not sure what else to do.

I notice in voice attack this is what I am getting:

21:55:52 - Unrecognized : 'Reverse'
21:55:51 - Unrecognized : '.'
21:55:36 - Recognized : 'right panel' <Note still did nothing.
21:55:33 - Unrecognized : 'targeted panel' < meant to be targeting panel
21:55:29 - Recognized : 'left' , <Note still did nothing.
21:55:27 - Unrecognized : 'weapons'

Appreciate your help on this.


Ab

[Nollywood]

Doesnt seem like you are using the correct commands.

"reverse" will not do anything you need to specify how much like you do going forward. - eg "reverse 50%"

"open left panel" not "left panel"
"open right panel" not "right panel"
"deploy weapons" or "retract weapons"

[Arbanax]

Granted, Nollywood, I am sure that sometimes where it says unrecognised I've used the wrong expression, but even where it does say recognised, it isn't carrying out the corresponding action. For instance jumping to super cruise or hyper space, Astra still responds, but nothing happens. Yet if I press the keyboard it works fine. I've done nothing to Astra since updating her on the weekend to the latest download. That is why I thoroughly tested this before coming back to you.

I am happy to try other commands, and play about with the profiles, maybe since I am using a Hotas, for instance I ought to use that profile and see if its better. But it still remains that something isn't working, but I cannot get to the bottom of it at present.

Ab

[Gangrel]

Are you using the beta profiles or the "basic" profiles?

[Rangoon]

With voice attack for some of the commands we have disabled the "passthrough" facility of voice attack if we have also bound it to "trigger" ASTRA/Midnight/AI from speaking when you press a key. This was to prevent "double tapping" of commands (you press the key, Elite would do the action, Voice Attack would say the command AND also press the key as well.
Reset all systems;Run diagnostics;Check all systems;All systems check;Full diagnostic scan;Initiate diagnostic scan;Prepare all on board systems"
If you click the "disable shortcut" keys on voice attack you will find that the keys work.

I was just searching the forum for this. So how does Voice Attack know whether you're typing into chat for example? If it traps the keypresses for these shortcuts, how do you type in game? I noticed this happening with the 'm' key in Astra, for example. If I'm in Windows (browser, etc.) and have a word processor listed in the pull-down for "Send commands to", the keypress will indeed not pass through to my browser. But if I have it set to "Active window" then it does pass through.

How does it work in game? Will it pass these keys through in chat? Or trap them?

EDIT: is this exclusively handled by the Keyboard On/Off commands?

[Gangrel]

I was just searching the forum for this. So how does Voice Attack know whether you're typing into chat for example?

VA doesn't know if you are typing in chat or not. It just does what it is told to do.

If it traps the keypresses for these shortcuts, how do you type in game?

You can enable/disable shortcuts in voice attack by clicking the keyboard logo above the "send commands to" drop down menu. If shortcuts are enabled, and the command is set to NOT passthrough keypresses, then they will be trapped.

I noticed this happening with the 'm' key in Astra, for example. If I'm in Windows (browser, etc.) and have a word processor listed in the pull-down for "Send commands to", the keypress will indeed not pass through to my browser. But if I have it set to "Active window" then it does pass through.

Depends on the profile and the shortcuts and how they are set up. For US, with SOME of the commands, they are set to NOT pass through the keypresses, others might well be allowed. As I said earlier, it was mainly to prevent "double tapping" of the command, whilst also giving feedback (audio file playing for example) to the user.

How does it work in game? Will it pass these keys through in chat? Or trap them?

Depends on the command. If you are using the beta profile (this has a lot more shortcuts by the way) then we have "Typing mode on" and "typing mode off" commands, which just toggle the voice attack "shortcut" setting.

Personally, I edit each profile so that they are removed from the commands, so I don't have to do this. I run several apps at the same time, so toggling it on and off on a regular basis is annoying for me.